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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like the concept of god.  they&#039;re human concepts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like the concept of god.  they&#8217;re human concepts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Reality Check admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality Check admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Chris.  I think your point is answered by my post, where I show that the speed of light (and all other speeds) is effectively a comparison of two distances.  Now thought, that&#039;s another matter entirely ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Chris.  I think your point is answered by my post, where I show that the speed of light (and all other speeds) is effectively a comparison of two distances.  Now thought, that&#8217;s another matter entirely &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Chris Maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &#039;Time&#039; didn&#039;t exist, then there would be no &#039;Speed of Light&#039; and all physical laws would break down. Just as our thoughts are physical, time is too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8216;Time&#8217; didn&#8217;t exist, then there would be no &#8216;Speed of Light&#8217; and all physical laws would break down. Just as our thoughts are physical, time is too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Reality Check admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality Check admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jeff, for your comment.  The point that you&#039;re making is very important - all distance is, of course, relative.  We have no way of knowing how big the universe is in absolute terms, so of course the idea of &#039;absolute size&#039; of the universe has no meaning.

That&#039;s a little bit different, though, from the point I&#039;m making about time. First it&#039;s necessary to see that the concept of &#039;sequence&#039; does have meaning without reference to time.  For instance, I can take an instantaneous snapshot of houses in a street, all in the same shot, with house numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 (the even numbers are on the other side of the street here in the UK).  That&#039;s a sequence, and it&#039;s represented in two spatial dimensions on a snapshot.  Sure, it takes time to assimilate the info in that snapshot - but that&#039;s a feature of sensory perception, not of the sequence itself.

If one goes deeper into it then it does turn out that something more is needed just for things to exist at all, something that we refer to as &#039;time&#039;.  But the point that I&#039;m making is that the thing we refer to as &#039;time&#039; - when we measure time in any way - can always be reduced to a comparison of two distances.  There&#039;s no need for anything other than spatial dimensions to fully explain our measurement of time.  This suggests that what we refer to as &#039;time&#039; is actually something rather different, interpreted that way by our sensory system as a &#039;notational convenience&#039; (i.e. makes life easier for us).  There&#039;s actually no need for anything more than spatial dimensions (including one that our consciousness interprets to us as &#039;time&#039;) for a full explanation of observed phenomena.  [Note that this is NOT the same interpretation of &#039;time&#039; as the proposed 4th dimension of &#039;spacetime&#039; in the sense that relativity theory uses it.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jeff, for your comment.  The point that you&#8217;re making is very important &#8211; all distance is, of course, relative.  We have no way of knowing how big the universe is in absolute terms, so of course the idea of &#8216;absolute size&#8217; of the universe has no meaning.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a little bit different, though, from the point I&#8217;m making about time. First it&#8217;s necessary to see that the concept of &#8217;sequence&#8217; does have meaning without reference to time.  For instance, I can take an instantaneous snapshot of houses in a street, all in the same shot, with house numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 (the even numbers are on the other side of the street here in the UK).  That&#8217;s a sequence, and it&#8217;s represented in two spatial dimensions on a snapshot.  Sure, it takes time to assimilate the info in that snapshot &#8211; but that&#8217;s a feature of sensory perception, not of the sequence itself.</p>
<p>If one goes deeper into it then it does turn out that something more is needed just for things to exist at all, something that we refer to as &#8216;time&#8217;.  But the point that I&#8217;m making is that the thing we refer to as &#8216;time&#8217; &#8211; when we measure time in any way &#8211; can always be reduced to a comparison of two distances.  There&#8217;s no need for anything other than spatial dimensions to fully explain our measurement of time.  This suggests that what we refer to as &#8216;time&#8217; is actually something rather different, interpreted that way by our sensory system as a &#8216;notational convenience&#8217; (i.e. makes life easier for us).  There&#8217;s actually no need for anything more than spatial dimensions (including one that our consciousness interprets to us as &#8216;time&#8217;) for a full explanation of observed phenomena.  [Note that this is NOT the same interpretation of 'time' as the proposed 4th dimension of 'spacetime' in the sense that relativity theory uses it.]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Jeff Guarino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Guarino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also say space doesn&#039;t exist either.  For example: How far is a foot ? Well it&#039;s 12 inches.  So then how far is an inch ?   This is defined by  so many wavelengths of a frequency of light.  But how far is a wave length of  this light ?

You can go on and on and finally you see that all lengths are defined in terms of other lengths.  Or length is relative.  Time is also defined relative to other times.

I&#039;ve having a lot of trouble making sense of any of the arguments. I think a lot more study has to go into this before we can say &quot;time doesn&#039;t exist&quot;

The numbers 1,2,3,4,5 written here are not a sequence in space unless you have time also.  You need time to observe the numbers. Things in space have to be observed and observations take time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also say space doesn&#8217;t exist either.  For example: How far is a foot ? Well it&#8217;s 12 inches.  So then how far is an inch ?   This is defined by  so many wavelengths of a frequency of light.  But how far is a wave length of  this light ?</p>
<p>You can go on and on and finally you see that all lengths are defined in terms of other lengths.  Or length is relative.  Time is also defined relative to other times.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve having a lot of trouble making sense of any of the arguments. I think a lot more study has to go into this before we can say &#8220;time doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221;</p>
<p>The numbers 1,2,3,4,5 written here are not a sequence in space unless you have time also.  You need time to observe the numbers. Things in space have to be observed and observations take time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Reality Check admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Ben. You&#039;re right that I&#039;m relating time to the transition of energy from one place or state to another, but my main point is more fundamental than that. We measure time by changes on a clock face, state-changes in an atom, level that a candle has burned down to, or even the perception of duration registered by changes in our brain. And all of these are basically DISTANCES - the distance that energy has travelled to produce those effects. We attribute this to something we refer to as &#039;time&#039; - but there&#039;s no objective reality, outside of our perception, that supports that concept. Alter the &#039;speed&#039; of light (a time-based concept) and absolutely nothing changes in our real-world experience - since ALL of that experience is governed by that speed, acting like a metronome keeping everything in perfect synch. Nothing - apart from our perception - indicates that &#039;time-states&#039; of the universe are separated by &#039;time-intervals&#039; as opposed to all coexisting &#039;simultaneously&#039; (another time-based word - that concept is ingrained into our collective psyche).
In short: There IS something going on - but to attribute it to a concept of &#039;duration&#039; in the sense that we understand that concept is to assume that what we perceive is the objective reality. Quantum Mechanics has shown us in many ways that this isn&#039;t necessarily the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Ben. You&#8217;re right that I&#8217;m relating time to the transition of energy from one place or state to another, but my main point is more fundamental than that. We measure time by changes on a clock face, state-changes in an atom, level that a candle has burned down to, or even the perception of duration registered by changes in our brain. And all of these are basically DISTANCES &#8211; the distance that energy has travelled to produce those effects. We attribute this to something we refer to as &#8216;time&#8217; &#8211; but there&#8217;s no objective reality, outside of our perception, that supports that concept. Alter the &#8217;speed&#8217; of light (a time-based concept) and absolutely nothing changes in our real-world experience &#8211; since ALL of that experience is governed by that speed, acting like a metronome keeping everything in perfect synch. Nothing &#8211; apart from our perception &#8211; indicates that &#8216;time-states&#8217; of the universe are separated by &#8216;time-intervals&#8217; as opposed to all coexisting &#8217;simultaneously&#8217; (another time-based word &#8211; that concept is ingrained into our collective psyche).<br />
In short: There IS something going on &#8211; but to attribute it to a concept of &#8216;duration&#8217; in the sense that we understand that concept is to assume that what we perceive is the objective reality. Quantum Mechanics has shown us in many ways that this isn&#8217;t necessarily the case.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are basically saying time doesn&#039;t exist because it&#039;s energy traveling from one point to another, but for energy to travel, it needs time to do it in, else it is at the starting and finishing point at the same time (aswell as everywhere in between), because traveling is the act of moving from one point to another. so it according to your theory it isnt traveling at all.. I think what you&#039;ve done is give a theory on how time works, rather than disprove it..

Maybe I&#039;m misunderstanding something, I don&#039;t have a degree, and I&#039;m definitively not as good as you with words, but I felt the need to share this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are basically saying time doesn&#8217;t exist because it&#8217;s energy traveling from one point to another, but for energy to travel, it needs time to do it in, else it is at the starting and finishing point at the same time (aswell as everywhere in between), because traveling is the act of moving from one point to another. so it according to your theory it isnt traveling at all.. I think what you&#8217;ve done is give a theory on how time works, rather than disprove it..</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m misunderstanding something, I don&#8217;t have a degree, and I&#8217;m definitively not as good as you with words, but I felt the need to share this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Easter Island: An Object Lesson by Reality Check admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reality Check admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim, excellent graph. very pointed.
Seems to me the US have lost the plot a bit, space-wise - a great shame, they were actually pretty good at it.
Have to give them (or someone) something new to think about on the space exploration front - I&#039;m working on it ...
(And I&#039;m not the only one)

I&#039;ll have to keep an eye on xkcd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim, excellent graph. very pointed.<br />
Seems to me the US have lost the plot a bit, space-wise &#8211; a great shame, they were actually pretty good at it.<br />
Have to give them (or someone) something new to think about on the space exploration front &#8211; I&#8217;m working on it &#8230;<br />
(And I&#8217;m not the only one)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to keep an eye on xkcd.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Easter Island: An Object Lesson by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 18:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dad,
Did you see the recent xkcd, which was really about the US cancelling the shuttle program?
http://xkcd.com/893/

I like xkcd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dad,<br />
Did you see the recent xkcd, which was really about the US cancelling the shuttle program?<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/893/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/893/</a></p>
<p>I like xkcd.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Doesn&#8217;t Exist: A Step-by-Step Proof by jghjhg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jghjhg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I view &quot;Time&quot; as being intertwined in many phenomena such as change caused by motion, speed of the motion, frequency of the occurrence of change, direction of the motion, distance, planetary rotation, change in solar illunimation of the earth, and change of seasons and time of the day.

How can somebody determine whether an object is moving fast or slow? Or how can you prevent the occurence of the oncoming evening, when it&#039;s afternoon, and you know that evening is inevitable no matter what you do? You know that it will come at 6pm, for instance, and you wait for it, and, surely, it does come.

Whether time is inherently existing, or it&#039;s just a concept that people invented in order to better understand their reality, the perception of time is created in your brain due to the above mentioned phenomena.

When people talk about time as being the fourth dimension, they talk about a different kind of time. Even though past and future is a time frame in someone&#039;s life, it&#039;s not the same kind of time that the clock measures in order to determine speed, for example. Therefore, it&#039;s hard for some people to comprehend the idea that past and present can exist simultaneously with present in a different, but parallel dimension(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I view &#8220;Time&#8221; as being intertwined in many phenomena such as change caused by motion, speed of the motion, frequency of the occurrence of change, direction of the motion, distance, planetary rotation, change in solar illunimation of the earth, and change of seasons and time of the day.</p>
<p>How can somebody determine whether an object is moving fast or slow? Or how can you prevent the occurence of the oncoming evening, when it&#8217;s afternoon, and you know that evening is inevitable no matter what you do? You know that it will come at 6pm, for instance, and you wait for it, and, surely, it does come.</p>
<p>Whether time is inherently existing, or it&#8217;s just a concept that people invented in order to better understand their reality, the perception of time is created in your brain due to the above mentioned phenomena.</p>
<p>When people talk about time as being the fourth dimension, they talk about a different kind of time. Even though past and future is a time frame in someone&#8217;s life, it&#8217;s not the same kind of time that the clock measures in order to determine speed, for example. Therefore, it&#8217;s hard for some people to comprehend the idea that past and present can exist simultaneously with present in a different, but parallel dimension(s).</p>
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